During a Devcon panel in Bangkok, Vitalik Buterin, Stephen Goldfeder, Ben Jones, and Jesse Pollack discussed the issues facing Ethereum and its Rollup-centric roadmap. Vitalik Buterin said that whenever users operate across multiple chains, customized solutions are currently required. The ideal Ethereum experience should be like credit card usage in Web2, everything is seamlessly connected in the background. "If Ethereum can't achieve this level of experience, it will lose out to others who can." Stephen Goldfeder said that users should not be bothered by the complexity of the infrastructure, and advocated "unified Ethereum", envisioning a seamless transition across chains within the ecosystem. Vitalik Buterin also emphasized the need to simplify the flow of cross-chain assets. Ultimately, the group articulated a common mission: to enhance the user experience without compromising the decentralized ethos of Ethereum, aiming to build an ecosystem that is user-centric rather than chain-centric.